Re: [ba-poker] Bay 101 Drop vs Time

["James Kittock" <james(deleted the rest)>]

I have not heard anything as to "why"... 

With the combination of $4 drop per hand and the 
use of ShuffleMasters, I would estimate that they have
nearly doubled the income per table, at least at $3/6
and similar low limits.

As for "how they get away with it", I blame the
popularity of poker--the market will bear the
higher price.

Having said that, I've now put in a few hours at
3/6 under the new structure, and have tentatively
concluded that the extra drop doesn't hurt a solid
Specifically, if you're playing tight and only taking
down a few big pots during a session, it is better to
be charged $4/pot rather than $3/orbit.   To look at
it another way, it costs $4/orbit to fold, rather than
$7/orbit, which is a significant break for the tight
player.

On the other hand, I think the new structure is detrimental
for the loose gamb00lers who tend to be in lots of pots, but
I think that the cost is sufficiently "hidden" from them.

For the most part, the games seem to be staying loose
and juicy, so I think $3/6 is probably somewhat more
beatable with the $4 flat rake than it was with the $3 live
button charge--just as long as the fishies don't get taxed
to the point that they swim away...

--james


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John R. Grout" <j.grout(deleted the rest)>
To: <ba-poker(deleted the rest)>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: [ba-poker] Bay 101 Drop vs Time


> Joe Francis <jfrancis(deleted the rest)> wrote:
>
> > I was told on Friday by an employee of Bay 101 that
> > they just switched to dropping $4 from the pot on the
> > 20-40 game, instead of having a time charge.  The
> > higher limit games still have the time charge, I
> > believe.
>
> When Foxwoods converted a bunch of limits from time to a
> rake, they said it was "by popular demand".  Since it
> raised their collection significantly, either the players
> were idiots or the management was using player demand
> as a cover.
>
> Did Bay 101 offer a cover story for this one?  They
> didn't say anything in March for the $1 extra per pot
> from $2-$4 HE and from Omaha.
> --
> John R. Grout
> j.grout(deleted the rest)
>
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